Switching between multiple Innovator/No Overlay Maps

I’ve got two different custom layouts that I use (hexagons for notes, some large XY areas for more gestural work). I’ve set them both up as No Overlay options. Is there any way to switch between them without resending the map to the Morph?

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Hey Dave. There is no way to do this now, but it is something we’re looking to address. Thanks for your patience in the meantime.

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Great, thanks!

What would probably work for me (at least for now) would be to have commands in the ‘MIDI Morph Modifier’ section that loaded the next/previous Maps (or a specific one). Then, worst case, I could reserve an area on all my designs for setting specific maps.

Is there going to be a way to set my own magnet patterns eventually? Getting excited about 3d printing overlays :wink:

Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. We have gotten a lot of requests regarding magnet patterns so it’s on our minds. I can’t say it’s something we’ll be able to implement in the near future though.

If I copied the magnet placement from the Inventors overlay, would I be able to set up that with one map, and a No Overlay with another map so I could switch between two? And if so, can you share the location/polarity?

If I did do that, is there any pattern of magnets I can use to hold an overlay in place and it’ll still show up as No Overlay?

With regards to the Identification versus Retainer magnets, look to this conversation thread for some observations & speculation. Sensel has not been exactly open about the specifics of their magnet system in the overlays…

What about the ability to have 3 self created maps with the already existing innovators overlay? I guess the magnet codes are different if I would flip the overlay on its back side?
That would allow to have one design for no overlay, one for normal set, and one for flipped…

At the moment the innovators overlay is completely useless, as it does the same as the no overlay…

I think @mo-seph 's idea of No Overlay & Innovator Overlay swapping might work. Though I have not tried this myself.

As for the idea of 3-self-created maps, Sensel hasn’t given us the ability to have custom magnet-coded overlays. It’s already “on their radar” so it’ll be a matter of waiting to see if it ever becomes a feature or not.
And as for flipping it over, I think the polarity of the retention magnets would prevent it from adhering correctly.

I tried the flipping and it adheres perfectly, that is why I thought it might give us a third map. Of course the Sensel firmware and editor has to be modified to make it work. Its a feature request… And at least two maps are obligatory to make the innovators overlay useful at all.
I paid for it quite a while ago and it has no value yet!

I just tried it too and when flipping horizontally it does appear to align perfectly. Interesting…

Yeah, I’m still waiting for a Bluetooth issue to be dealt with from back in April/May…

I don’t know if there’s been any movement on this? I’ve been making overlays that have the locating magnets on (the ones where there are magnets in the Morph at the same place) and it shows up as an innovators overlay, no problem.

However, I can’t re-use those maps for e.g. No Overlay in the Editor.

Is there any way yet to use two different custom overlays?

Hi @Matt_from_Sensel ,

It’s been a couple of years now - is there going to be any way to change maps for custom overlays? I could work with a button that lets you choose a specific map if the magnets don’t work? For me, this was one of the key drivers to put time into making maps, so that I could tailor them to patches/ways of playing.

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I have given up completely. Since I bought the Sensel, there was no advancement at all with all those reported and known issues. Its still useful (except for the innovators overlay, which is completely useless…) and I am happy to have a Sensel, but it seems Sensel is not willing to do any development and at the same time not being able to document or open source at least the Editor. That puts me back. This isn’t really acceptable. The community could have solved a lot of the problems easily. The great potential of this technology seems waisted.
I have no problem that the main focus of the company is in other areas, but why not hire someone who solely takes care of that musical instrument. I am sure it would pay for itself…

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2 years later: do we have to abandon any hope and loose all our patience?

Obviously we have to live with it as it is. No advance and no crucial bugs fixed since years… I have given up, though the underlying technique is the best of all, the hardware is almost perfect. They would need to hire someone who solely takes care of the Morph…